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References for list of American-built extreme clippers
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Crothers, William L. (1997). The American-Built Clipper Ship, 1850-1856: Characteristics, Construction, Details. Camden, ME: International Marine. pp. xii–xiv. ISBN978-0-07-014501-6.
Howe, Octavius T; Matthews, Frederick C. (1986 reprint of 1926-1927 ed.). American Clipper Ships 1833-1858. Volume 1, Adelaide-Lotus. New York: Dover Publications. ISBN978-0-486-25115-8. {{cite book}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)Djembayz (talk) 01:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-24T01:44:00.000Z","author":"Djembayz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Djembayz-2010-06-24T01:44:00.000Z-References_for_list_of_American-built_extreme_clippers","replies":[]}}-->
This navbox is getting quite large. On my browser it doesn't even fit on one page. According to WP:Navbox "should be kept small in size" and "Navigation templates provide navigation between existing articles" (emphasis mine). A "list of ..." article could have the complete list. The references cited on the talk page above could go there too. -- Brianhe (talk) 02:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-20T02:48:00.000Z","author":"Brianhe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Brianhe-2010-07-20T02:48:00.000Z-Excessive_size","replies":["c-TeleComNasSprVen-2010-07-20T17:36:00.000Z-Brianhe-2010-07-20T02:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Way, way too much. :| TelCoNaSpVe :|17:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-20T17:36:00.000Z","author":"TeleComNasSprVen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-TeleComNasSprVen-2010-07-20T17:36:00.000Z-Brianhe-2010-07-20T02:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Brianhe-2010-08-02T23:11:00.000Z-TeleComNasSprVen-2010-07-20T17:36:00.000Z"],"displayName":":| TelCo"}}-->
Removed ships and designers with nonexisting articles. Also removed HTML line breaks from column 1 to make it more compact. -- Brianhe (talk) 23:11, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-02T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Brianhe","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Brianhe-2010-08-02T23:11:00.000Z-TeleComNasSprVen-2010-07-20T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-TeleComNasSprVen-2010-08-04T21:15:00.000Z-Brianhe-2010-08-02T23:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
What's the distinction between British & Scottish - since the latter falls under the former? GraemeLeggett (talk) 09:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-29T09:24:00.000Z","author":"GraemeLeggett","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GraemeLeggett-2010-09-29T09:24:00.000Z-Distinction","replies":[]}}-->
I removed these from the template due to size and overcrowding issues. I feel these would make a good template on their own. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:08, 13 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-07-13T17:08:00.000Z","author":"Knowledgekid87","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Knowledgekid87-2019-07-13T17:08:00.000Z-Designers_&_builders","replies":[]}}-->
The dates can be seen as clutter I know, but what should we do about the issue of a ship having the same name in the same column but launched on different dates? i do not want readers to get confused on what they are looking for. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:54, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Knowledgekid87","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z-Date_removal","replies":["c-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z","c-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:37:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for the response Knowledgekid87 - but I can't actually see any ships with the same name in the same decade (or period), would you mind pointing them out to me? Gatoclass (talk) 21:17, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T21:17:00.000Z","author":"Gatoclass","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:17:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Oh dear, I just noticed that the ships are not even arranged in alphabetical order, which is presumably why I couldn't find the ships of the same name. That's something else that needs to be fixed IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 21:37, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T21:37:00.000Z","author":"Gatoclass","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:37:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-27T19:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-28T21:59:00.000Z-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
If you think the ships would be better presented without the small dates and in ABC order then go ahead and make the change. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 21:59, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-28T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Knowledgekid87","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-28T21:59:00.000Z-Gatoclass-2020-04-28T21:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gatoclass-2020-04-29T12:08:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-28T21:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks - done. Gatoclass (talk) 12:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-29T12:08:00.000Z","author":"Gatoclass","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gatoclass-2020-04-29T12:08:00.000Z-Knowledgekid87-2020-04-28T21:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->