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Hi, thanks for your contributions. I reverted your WP:PROD of of Louise Butterworth because I didn't think it was appropriate. In the PROD statement you said it "fails SPORTSCRIT", but I don't think that's true. Per the policy Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, that's achieved by the Wales Online coverage, "Athletics:Louise in pole position on her return to UWIC". Wales Online. 2009-01-14. Retrieved 2009-03-05.. There is no universal requirement for sportspeople to have competed in a world championships to be notable, so I think discretion should be used. Thanks, --Habst (talk) 12:21, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240815122100","author":"Habst","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Habst-20240815122100-Your_PROD_of_Louise_Butterworth","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. I'm am really sorry to say this to you but whenever I read some of your edit descriptions (especially South Africa—Thailand relations), I feel like you're angry that something feels off in a Wikipedia article (and I get that because this is an encyclopedia and not another type of website). If you weren't angry then again I sincerely apologize for my actions. I still need a guide to make a decent bilateral relations article without unencyclopedic crufts that you just removed (which I personally added because of effort). Underdwarf58 (talk) 13:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816135100","author":"Underdwarf58","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Underdwarf58-20240816135100-Your_edit_descriptions_are_kind_of_harsh_imo","replies":["c-LibStar-20240816135500-Underdwarf58-20240816135100"]}}-->
I have been involved in bilateral articles, probably 100s of them. My edit summaries are honest and accurate. WP:EFFORT, an argument used in AfDs but applicable here is not a reason for keeping. LibStar (talk) 13:55, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816135500","author":"LibStar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LibStar-20240816135500-Underdwarf58-20240816135100","replies":["c-Underdwarf58-20240816135600-LibStar-20240816135500"]}}-->
okay... but is there a guide that can help me improve myself? Underdwarf58 (talk) 13:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816135600","author":"Underdwarf58","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Underdwarf58-20240816135600-LibStar-20240816135500","replies":["c-LibStar-20240816135700-Underdwarf58-20240816135600"]}}-->
Probably not a guide, I'll find some good examples for you. LibStar (talk) 13:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816135700","author":"LibStar","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-LibStar-20240816135700-Underdwarf58-20240816135600","replies":["c-Underdwarf58-20240816140000-LibStar-20240816135700"]}}-->
I think it's better to put them in my talk page mister. Underdwarf58 (talk) 14:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240816140000","author":"Underdwarf58","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Underdwarf58-20240816140000-LibStar-20240816135700","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi, I am the creator of the Piano Quartet (Carmichael) article you have proposed for deletion. I've been away from my computer since the 13th of August and wanted to take part in any discussion. Where can I find the discussion?Graham1973 (talk) 03:55, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240820035500","author":"Graham1973","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Graham1973-20240820035500-Proposed_Deletion_of_Piano_Quartet_(Carmichael)","replies":["c-LibStar-20240820040200-Graham1973-20240820035500"]}}-->
No discussion except the prod request. You are welcome to remove the prod which I see you have done. LibStar (talk) 04:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240820040200","author":"LibStar","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LibStar-20240820040200-Graham1973-20240820035500","replies":[]}}-->
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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. AusLondonder (talk) 17:04, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240824170400","author":"AusLondonder","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AusLondonder-20240824170400-Proposed_deletion_of_Slovakia\u2013United_Kingdom_relations","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello, LibStar,
It is bad form to strike comments from an AFD participant on an AFD discussion where you are clearly involved as the nominator. And your rationale doesn't even apply as the editor made this comment (August 23rd) before a topic ban was imposed (August 24th). But even if it was a valid reason to stike a comment, let this be done by an uninvolved neutral party. Thank you. LizRead!Talk!00:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240827001300","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20240827001300-Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion\/Peter_Vandenberg","replies":[]}}-->